If you’ve followed the Kardashians for a long time, you’ll know that Khloé has been through a lot — from the death of her father when she was 19 to a string of public cheating scandals in her 30s.

Sean Zanni / Patrick McMullan via Getty ImagesAt this point in the interview, the reporter mentioned that Khloé had previously said on The Kardashians that therapy wasn’t something she felt comfortable taking part in. This prompted the mom of two to reveal that her stance has now changed.

Notably, Kim has had a similarly successful therapy journey despite her past reluctance to pursue that path. Earlier this year on The Kardashians, the Skims founder told Khloé that her therapy sessions helped her to understand how her 2016 robbery in Paris impacted the way she now manages stress.

“I met with a therapist again… She was like, You think calm is your superpower. I think you are so desensitized from trauma that you literally are frozen in fight or flight,” Kim said. “Then she was like, One time in life, something happened, and you remained calm, and that worked for you, so you will always choose calm.”

“Imagine you’re like, gun to your head, getting tied up, dragged across a hotel room, and the guy, I remember him telling me, stay calm and you’ll live…I did that, and it served me well at that time. I think it saved my life,” she continued, recalling the traumatic incident. “But I think I’ve let it get too calm to [the point] where people could take advantage of my calmness. Or I’m just turning into a full robot with no emotion.”